Posts by Designer Stubble

they couldn't and i followed them up and down the street proclaiming they were false teachers and couldn't talk their way out of a paper bag with a knowledgeable apostate.

Designer Stubble

I don't agree with well done either. It is incidents like this that make apostates look bitter and like nutcases. Reasoning on a one to one basis and sowing seeds of doubt is the approach I prefer.

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New Flock Book (Elder Manual)

by Designer Stubble in

Designer Stubble

What the new elders book shows is that the Governing Body has chosen for a [u]hardliner Pharisee approach[/u] rather than mercy. Here is a grand example:

In Ray Franz book “In Search Of Christian Freedom” on page 405, he relates a few examples of letters written to the society by witnesses who felt it was wrong not to offer a disfellowshipped person a ride to the kingdom hall. Examples were given of persons not having a car, nor the money for public transport and having to walk miles to the kingdom halls (in the pouring rain), while others simply drove past them on their way to “Christian” meetings.

The Governing Body, which included Ray at the time approved the WT article of August 1, 1974, pages 460-473, which shows a merciful approach should be taken towards disfellowshipped ones. Here is an excerpt from that article:

[quote] *** w74 8/1 p. 462 pars. 10-11 Divine Mercy Points the Way Back for Erring Ones ***
The parable of the prodigal son provides further insight into Jehovah’s admirable attitude of mercy and considerateness. (Luke 15:11-32) The reaction of the father in the parable upon the return of his wayward son exemplifies in a very appealing way what the heavenly Father, Jehovah, is like. In the parable, the son had left home, gone far off and squandered his time and money in a debauched life, including keeping company with harlots. He came into poverty and hunger and, jolted to his senses, he decided to return to his father. Note, now, what the parable says: “While he was yet a long way off, his father caught sight of him and was moved with pity, and he ran and fell upon his neck and tenderly kissed him.”—Luke 15:20.
11 Thus, when catching sight of his son in the distance, the father did not say: ‘I am not going to move an inch or say one word until that sinner comes right to my feet and formally requests to be accepted back.’ No, but seeing his son heading toward him and, in effect, discerning what was in his son’s mind, the father went to meet him. It was—not before—but after this fatherly expression of pity that the son’s formal asking of forgiveness took place.[/quote]

Ray explains how happy he was to inform people that a merciful decision had been taken and offering a ride was allowed as it was the human and Christian way to act.

Now look at the new Flock book (elders manual), page 115:

[quote]5. Disfellowshipped and disassociated ones are generally expected to make their own arrangements for [b]transportation to and from congregation meetings.[/b][/quote]

[u]This statement is not made in the previous Flock book[/u], so the stand is more hardliner and Pharisee than before. This is just one example, I am sure there are many more.

Can you imagine now that you are driving to the meeting and see a disfellowshipped person walking in the pouring rain? You decided to stop and offer a ride, the human and Christian thing to do and in line with the 1974 Watchtower. You arrive at the kingdom hall and are spotted with the disfellowshipped person in your car. You will without doubt be spoken to about this by the elders. Not really the love amongst brothers that would identify true Christians.

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BOE LTR (PDF) Brazen Conduct !!!

by yknot in

i apologize to those in the vincinity of my spad's ladies bathroom....... yes!

oh my gaud!

give it to me baby!

Designer Stubble

Any news on getting a softcopy of this book?

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were are we really going when we die!

by arimatthewdavies in

i tried this one before but my browser was broken.

come let us go up into heaven let us build our thrones their let us become like the most high!

these are satans words they got him and his demons kicked out off heaven!

Designer Stubble

When we die, we decompose. End of story. Enjoy what you are sure that you have.

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Can we trust this website? (About the subject in which Jehovah's Witnesses were a NGO)

by possible-san in

can we trust this website?.

watchtower as a united nations ngo - critical look at the conspiracy theory.

http://www.jehovahsjudgment.co.uk/watchtower-un-ngo/.

Designer Stubble

Here directly from the United Nations Website:

http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf

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Pissing On JWs That Are Geuninely Searching Here

by minimus in

jw
friends

i just want to say something about witnesses who come here just to try to rebel rouse as opposed to jws that come here and are "searching" or are "active" members in the organization but are reading info on this site.. there's no reason to "beat down" witnesses just because they still go to meetings and we don't.

i've seen some insulting words against present elders and it's unnecessary and judgmental, in my honest opinion.

some jws like to spar with us on this board and it's a losing effort for them in reality.. who knows when or what will make someone actually leave the tentacles of the organization.

Designer Stubble

Active Witnesses looking for a very well moderated board, with quite a number of active witnesses can also look at:

http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/

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When you leave property to Watchtower....

by cameo-d in

the statutes of mortmain were two enactments, in 1279 and 1290 by king edward i of england aimed at preserving the kingdom's revenues by preventing land from passing into the possession of the church.

in medieval england, feudal estates generated taxes (in the form of incidents) upon the inheritance or granting of the estate.

if an estate was owned by a religious corporation that never died, attained majority, or became attainted for treason, these taxes were never paid.

Designer Stubble

Of course the WTBTS will accept the property of someone who is DFed. Hell they have accepted stock in the tabbacco and military industry left to them by will. They will fight the family for this property if necessary as they have done in the past on many occassions.